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APTA > About APTA > APTA Committees > Universal Transit Farecard Standards (UTFS) Task Force  

UTFS Fare Media Committee

Conference Call Minutes April 19, 2004

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Participants:

Henry Rosen, PATH, Chair

Margaret Walker, ERG

Steve Mortenson, Mitretek

Rich Lobron, Lobron Consulting

Kevin Fehn, LIRR

Robert Reavis, BART

Norman Kort, Cubic

Shelley O’Keefe, BemroseBooth

Alex Pi, Scheidt and Bachmann

Tim Weisenberger, Volpe

Lisa Bucci, Scheidt and Bachmann

Dave Phelps, APTA

Tim W. took role and asked for comments to the previous meeting minutes. None were given.

Goals and Objectives:

  • IP Policy Update
  • Work Group Updates

Henry stated that the goals for the call were to get an update on the IP Policy and to get work group updates from the Magnetic and Procedural groups.

IP Policy Update- Dave Phelps

IP policy changes suggested by several members were substantive and so edits have been made to the policy. Specific activities are:

  • A meeting will be held April 20 with S&B to finalize their comments
  • Ongoing correspondence with ERG regarding their comments has been slow owing to the substantial time difference. Dave will speak with Margaret W. to help speed the process
  • Once all comments are resolved, the IP Policy will be released (hopefully the week of April 26) for Task Force recirculation ballot.
  • The ballot process should be complete by the June 6 Rail CEO Steering Committee meeting. At this meeting, the policy will be presented for approval and adoption.

Dave Phelps stated that the IP policy changes suggested by several members were substantive and so edits have been made to the policy. Those changes are being finalized and successful conversations were held with S&B. A meeting will be held April 20 that Dave anticipates should gain S&B approval to their comments.

Additionally, APTA has been in email correspondence with ERG legal staff, but owing to their location in Perth, communications have been a bit slow. Dave asked Margaret Walker to speak with him off-line to attempt to speed communications.

Dave was quite confident that the excellent comments submitted are days away from being finalized. Once the edits are final, the document will be issued to the Task Force balloting members for vote. The ballot period must be a minimum of 30 days. Dave expressed that there should be closure to the ballot process by the June 6 Rail CEO Steering Committee meeting. At this meeting, the policy will be presented for approval and adoption.

Work Group Reports:

Magnetic Fare Media: Rich Lobron

The WG was sent ISO 15457 standard to review for use as a baseline. Comments are due Apr 23. The WG will meet either the week of Apr 29 or May 3 to discuss.

The ISO 15457 standard does not include standard data elements. These must be developed by the WG.

Rich reported that he sent the ISO 15457 standard on magnetic cards to the Work Group for review. Comments are due April 23. After the comment period the group will meet via teleconference to discuss the use of this standard as a baseline. The ISO spec does not include data elements. The work group must develop these.

 

 

Procedural: Kevin Fehn/Tim Weisenberger

The Farecard Procurement Procedures document is posted on the web site at group met on Mar 4.

Limited final comments were received and must be resolved.

Kevin F. and Paula F. will meet on Mar 23 to resolve comments. They will attempt to complete this by the next Fare Media Committee Meeting.

Tim reported that the Farecard Procurement Procedures comments are in the process of being resolved. Paula Faust met with Tim and Kevin Fehn at the Fare Collection Workshop in NYC to begin resolving comments. Paula, together with her assistant Samira are tasked with resolving all comments. Kevin added that one issue is that many of the comments are legal in nature. They were submitted by an FTA lawyer through Sean Ricketson. These comments could stem from a lack of familiarity with how transit agencies develop RFPs for fare collection systems.

Dave P. suggested that APTA legal staff could review these comments as well after they are resolved. The group agreed to this approach. Tim W. took on the action item of following up with Paula, and working with Dave to vet the document through APTA legal prior to presentation to the Committee for ballot.

"Trends" Document Update

Tim and Dave brought up the "Trends" document briefly. Tim asked if Dave had received the final version. Dave was unsure. Tim took on the action item to determine when the document was sent and what timeline is expected for final release by APTA.

Wrap Up:

  • The Committee’s next teleconference will be held on Monday, May 10, 2004 at Noon Eastern time.

Action Items

  • Tim W.- Will follow up with Paula Faust regarding the Procedural document and determine a schedule for completion of comment resolution.
  • Dave P.- Continue to work through comment resolution of the IP Policy and provide status report at next committee meeting.
  • Tim W.- Once Procedural document is through comment resolution, work with APTA to vet through their legal staff prior to submission for Committee ballot.
  • Tim W.- Will ensure the final Trends document is in APTA’s hands for final edit/release.
  • Dave P.- Determine a schedule for release of the Trends document.
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