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July 05, 2008
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APTA > About APTA > APTA Committees > Universal Transit Farecard Standards (UTFS) Task Force  

UTFS Fare Media Committee

Conference Call Minutes June 21, 2004

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Fare Media Committee

Conference Call Minutes July 19, 2004

 

Participants:

Henry Rosen, PATH, Chair

Robert Reavis, BART

Kevin Fehn, LIRR

Anita Wolf, Cubic

Alex Pi, Scheidt and Bachmann

Tim Weisenberger, Volpe

Gary Yamamura, 3PCI

 

Tim W. took role and asked for comments to the previous meeting minutes. None were given.

Goals and Objectives:

  • Magnetic Work Group Update
  • Farecard Procurement Procedures ballot

Henry stated that the goals for the call were to get an update from the Magnetic work group and discuss the Farecard Procurement Procedures document ballot.

Work Group Reports:

Magnetic: Tim Weisenberger/Henry Rosen

Last meeting was July 13. No quorum reached.

Participation has been a problem- the last 2 meetings had no quorum, and the first of the two was canceled.

The WG members received the draft guideline document for review on June 6. No comments have been received.

The last piece of the guideline to complete is the data elements section. A sub-group will be formed to examine the WP1 smart card data elements and use these to create the magnetic data elements.

The next meeting will be set after the evaluation of the smart card data elements document.

Action: Tim will work with Rich on sending individual emails to all WG members asking them to respond if they want to be an active member or simply audit the WG activities.

Rich Lobron was unavailable for the meeting, so the report was given by Tim and Henry. The Magnetic WG met on Tue, Jul 13, however, they did not achieve a quorum for the call. Tim stated that the WG has had significant participation problems. The previous meeting was canceled due to a lack of attendance (only 4 people called in).

The WG has a completed draft guideline that went out to the members for review on June 6. To date Rich has received no comments. The document has a section for data elements incomplete, however. Rich would like to treat the data elements as a separate document that could be inserted into the guideline when complete. He attempted to call for a vote on the guideline, noting that the data elements section must be added. In the end, it was determined that no quorum existed, so they could not call a vote.

The group discussed creating a sub-group to work on the data elements. The sub-group would use the Data elements created by WP1. Tim stated that he had an action item to discuss with Walt B., the WP1 leader to provide the WP1 data elements to the Magnetic WG for use to create the magnetic data elements. This document can be shared next week possibly. Tim noted that Brian Monk and Alex Pi had volunteered for the sub-group.

Tim stated that Rich has indicated that he will not set the next Magnetic WG call until after the WP1 Data Elements document can be assessed.

Tim stated that of the original group membership, only a few have been active. Tim suggested trimming the membership to only active members and so allowing for quorums. The group agreed to recommend that individual emails go to all members on the Magnetic WG list to ask them to reply indicating they desire to be active participants or only auditing members that monitor the email communications.

Action: Tim W. will work with Rich to send these emails.

Farecard Procurement Procedures: Tim Weisenberger

The Ballot did achieve a quorum- 5 of 7 ballots received (71%) and passed. The ballot results:

2 Accept

2 Accept with Comments

1 Reject with Comments

Given these outstanding comments as well as the comments by James LaRusch of FTA, the work group must meet with the commenters to resolve all comments prior to sending the document to the Task Force for balloting.

Action: Tim will schedule a teleconference to resolve comments.

Paula Faust was not on the call, so Tim gave the report on the ballot results. Originally Tim stated that there was no a quorum, but Anita Wolf stated Cubic voted to approve with comments. Tim said there is a problem with the APTA mailbox that ballots were sent to, because others had a problem as well. Given the Cubic vote, there was a quorum achieved and the document is approved to be sent to the Task Force for balloting.

However, there were numerous comments received in the ballots. Additionally, there are as yet unresolved comments from FTA lawyer James LaRusch (note- since the teleconference, some expanded review and resolution was submitted by Mr. LaRusch). Tim noted that the Rail CEO Steering Committee requires all issues resolved in the working groups before they review and ballot a document. Therefore, the comments must be resolved. Henry suggested that WG meet with all commenters and attempt to resolve all comments ASAP. All were in agreement to this approach.

Action: Tim will schedule a teleconference of the appropriate group ASAP.

Wrap Up:

  • The Committee’s next teleconference will be held on Monday, Aug 23, 2004 at Noon Eastern time/9:00 AM Pacific.

Action Items

  • Tim W.- Work with Rich Lobron on sending individual emails to all WG members asking them to respond if they want to be an active member or simply audit the WG activities.
  • Tim W.- Schedule a teleconference to resolve all comments to the Farecard Procurement Procedures document.

 

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