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APTA > About APTA > APTA Committees > Universal Transit Farecard Standards (UTFS) Task Force > Financial Management  

UTFS Financial Management Committee Meeting Minutes

TeleMeeting Minutes: November 22, 2004

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TeleMeeting Minutes: November 22, 2004

Participants:

Chung Chung Tam, Chicago Transit Authority (Chair)

Alexander Pi, Scheidt & Bachmann USA

Rick Barrett, Quattran Associates (Vice Chair)

Gary Yamamura, Three Point Consulting

Walt Bonneau, Three Point Consulting

Martin P. Schroeder P.E., APTA

David deKozan, Cubic Transportation Systems

Leisa Moniz, USDOT/Volpe Center

David Faust, Chicago Transit Authority

Barnie Louie, BART

Gerry Lington, Parsons

Kevin Krest, G&D

Bob Murray

Craig Maxey, WMATA

Olatunji Nowlin, Chicago Transit Authority

Darshana Patel, Chicago Transit Authority

Roll call, Volpe Center

Meeting Goals and Objectives

Chung Chung Tam, Committee Chair outlined the goals and objectives for the meeting.

    • UTFS New York Meetings Report-out
    • Work group leaders report-out

    UTFS New York Meetings Report-out, Tam:

    November 17th:

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    System Work Group Report-out:

    On November 17th two separate meetings occurred at the offices of the PANYNJ, New York, NY.

    Transit Agency Meeting:

    The session began with a brief introduction from APTA in defining the goals and objectives of the session. Tom Parker, Chair of the UTFS Program began the morning with an overview briefing, including an architecture diagram. Most of the discussion centered around developing a consensus on what level of interoperability should be required under UTFS. At the end of the day four options were presented to the group for voting:

    Option 1 – proceed as we are;

    Option 2 – proceed with component level interoperability;

    Option 3 – proceed as we are – confirm viability for plug-n-play solution;

    Option 4 – scaled down approach of #2, device level interoperability;

    Option 2 received the majority vote.

    Vendor Only Meeting:

    Vendors agreed amongst themselves to propose a concept of subsystem interoperability. This concept meets UTFS program goals and objectives.

    Joint meeting between agencies and vendors:

    Tom Parker began the day with a presentation of the transit agency position. This position detailed proceeding with the WP2 to define a standard for specific AFC component (reader, bill validator, station computer, TVM etc) interoperability. Interoperability defined by the transit agency as the ability to openly procure replacements or upgrades for any AFC system component.

    Transit agency representatives felt that this approach expedites deployment of seamless, regional AFC systems thus generating improved customer service, increased ridership and revenue. Transit reps also felt it greatly facilitates equipment interchangeability, upgrades, cost-effective parts replacement, and allows for competitive procurements.

    The vendors presented their proposal and defined interoperability as seamless travel by patrons across agency sub-systems; changeability of card readers in devices such as fare gates. The vendor’s premise is that interoperability is achievable across these boundaries based on knowledge of formats encompassing all interoperable fare media and the interface specifications for data exchange between the fare media and the subsystems (WP1), and between the subsystems and the Regional Clearinghouse (WP4). The vendor’s alternative to plug and play defined interoperable subsystems from multiple suppliers. These subsystems can include a garage, rail station, a single "family" of devices, or a light rail extension and work in conjunction with agency central computers (subsystem controller) and consist of devices (faregates, fareboxes, validators, etc), consolidating reporting and agency specific tailoring.

    After some discussion, Tom Parker directed the transit agencies to bring the vendor position back to their agencies and review with appropriate staff and management. APTA indicated a 30-day review period. Comments need to be submitted to APTA within that time period. APTA, Volpe and Tom Parker will distribute materials via email the week of November 29th.

    Business Process Work Group:

    Rick Barrett indicated the final document was approved and finalized. The document will be posted to the APTA UTFS Website.

    Work Package #1:

    Walt Bonneau provided an update:

    • Document has been out for review and comments.
    • Comments are being addressed and will be incorporated into 2nd draft by mid-January
    • 2nd review is set for release at the end of February
    Work Package #3:

    Gary Yamamura provided an update:

    • Next call on Tuesday, November 23rd focus of the discussion will be review status of final draft.
    Work Package #4:
    • Next call Wednesday, November 24th.
    • BAH report due in December, will incorporate analysis of RIS Part 4 and TransLink

     

    Summary

    Leisa provided the recap:

    • APTA has action item to check to see if the Business Issues document has been posted to the APTA UTFS website.
    • Bob Murray, David deKozan and David McIlwraith need to meet via conference call to discuss the scope of WP#4
    • APTA and Volpe have the action item to distribute materials from NY meetings.
    • Next meeting is scheduled for Monday, December 20th at 12 NOON EASTERN TIME.

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