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UTFS Financial Management Committee Meeting Minutes
TeleMeeting
Minutes: July 18, 2005 (Download
this document in Adobe PDF format) Universal Transit Farecard Standards (UTFS) Program Financial Management Committee TeleMeeting Minutes: July 18, 2005 Participants:
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Chung-Chung Tam (Chair), CTA |
Leisa Moniz, USDOT/Volpe Center |
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Rick Barrett (Vice-Chair), Quattran Associates |
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Francis Christian, Innovision Research & Technology |
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Gary Lington, Parson |
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Barney Louie, BART |
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Craig Maxey, WMATA |
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Bob Murray |
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Tomas Oliva, TriMet |
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Darshana Patel, CTA |
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Gary Yamamura, Three Point Consulting |
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Roll Call and Goals and Objectives eisa Moniz opened the meeting with a roll call. Chung-Chung Tam outlined the goals
and objectives for the meeting.
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Meeting Goals & Objectives:
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- Update on UTFS By-Law Revision,
IP Policy and Scope Statement
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Work Group leaders report-out
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Update on CEN
- Update on TCIP
| | Since Martin Schroeder was not present on the call, Tam proceeded to the Work Group leader report-outs: | | | Work Group Leader Report-outs: | Tam congratulated Tomas Oliva on his
new position as leader of WP#1.
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Work Package #1, Tomas Oliva: -
New leadership for WP#1, Tomas
Oliva, TriMet was voted to
replace Alex Pi who resigned;
- Gary Yamamura is leader of the
Comment Resolution sub-group
| Alexander Pi has resigned as leader of
WP#1 and left the employment of Scheidt
and Bachmann. Tomas Oliva, TriMet has
assumed the leadership position after a vote
from the group.
Tomas summarized the activities of WP#1
as follows:
Two WP#1 meetings have been held since
the last Financial Management
Committee meeting.
Gary Yamamura has agreed to take over as lead of the Comment
Resolution Subgroup from Alex Pi.
The Comment Resolution subgroup is
undertaking a "final" review of
the overall document to ensure that the
document, and objects within the
Standard are compatible. It was agreed
that the subgroup would complete
the second review and submit any
comments to the Chair no later than Friday,
July 22nd. The next Comment Resolution
Subgroup teleconference will be held on
Tuesday, July 26th. This process is taking
longer than originally planned and
therefore, it appears that there will be at
least a month's delay to the project
schedule.
The WP#1 group felt that the specification
title that is currently being used does not
reflect very well what the Standard is
about. Since the WP#1 document is one
part (card data format) of the broader
interface
specification, which includes WP#4
(system interface messages), and
potentially other areas, such as security, the
WP#1 group agreed that the
name should reflect this, such that the
overall standard has a name, and the
WP#1 document is one part of the
standard. For example, the overall standard
might be something like "Transit
Smartcard System Interface Standard" and
the WP#1 document would be "Part 1 -
Card Data Format". The WP#1 group has
been asked to submit to the Chair their
suggested names for the overall
standard and the WP#1 document part of
the standard by the next meeting. The
suggestions can then be discussed at the
next meeting. Once a new title is
agreed to, it will be submitted to APTA for consideration. Tomas Note:
Perhaps WP4 should go through the same
exercise. | Work Package #3, Gary Yamamura:
- APTA needs to distribute Security
Guidelines document for final
approval.
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submitted to APTA on June 15th. Martin
Schroeder has an action item to distribute
to leadership for approval. | Work Package #4, Barney Louie and
Gary Yamamura:
- Card Initialization Sub-group has
met and will offer recommendations/comments on
next WP#4 call, scheduled for
Wednesday, July 20th at 11:30 AM
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PANYNJ has posted final version
of RIS, Part 4 on PANYNJ website,
http://www.panynj.gov/ris
- APTA has also received copy of
RIS, Part 4
| Since David McIwraith and Ed Barnette
were not present on the call, Barney Louie
and Gary Yamamura provided an update. Card Initialization/Issues Messages
subgroup led by Neal Huffman, Alliance
Data Systems has met several times via
conference call and has compiled
comments that will be put forth to the
WP#4 membership for review/approval.
This action should occur on the next call of
WP#4 scheduled for Wednesday, July 20th
at 11:30 AM. Once these comments have
been reviewed/revised/approved, the next
sub-group to meet will be Card Use
Transaction Message subgroup. This
subgroup is led by Lisa Bucci, S&B. Gary Yamamura indicated that the
PANYNJ has completed its latest version
of RIS, Part 4 and has submitted to APTA
on July 1, 2005. The document can also be found on the
PANYNJ website at
http://www.panynj.gov/ris | CEN Update, Tam:
- CEN IFMS Meeting in London,
September 5-6, 2005
- ISO/CEN Meeting in Portland, OR
on October 31- November 2, 2005
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recent CEN meeting in Oslo, Norway. US put forth a request to CEN that a crossreference
table be established that details the UTFS accomplishments. Additionally, the CEN delegates indicated
that the translate of IFMS, Part 1 to
German and French may take up to 6
months. Even with this time frame, Tam indicated
that a vote on IFMS, Part 1 at the ISO/CEN
meeting scheduled for October 31 –
November 2 in Portland, OR. Tam also
indicated the need to get Toll agencies
involved in the discussion, particularly
with regards to the transaction data and
back-end component of electronic toll
collection. CEN will also have a meeting in London,
on September 5-6th to discuss IFMS. Tam
indicated that CEN is unsure if Part 2 (Data
messaging) will go forward. | TCIP Update, Tam:
- TCIP Version 2.7.1 has been
released – comments due August
15, 2005.
- APTA still needs to resolve issues
between UTFS/TCIP.
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TCIP should of received from APTA the
most recent version, 2.7.1. If you did not receive this information, and
are interested in reviewing this version,
please contact Tam. APTA still needs to resolve the
TCIP/UTFS issues and any future
coordination between the two programs. |
SAVE THE DATE – Fare Systems and Programs Committee (formerly Revenue
Management Committee) will be meeting on Sunday, September 25th from 2-4 PM,
Dallas, TX prior to APTA Annual Meeting.
Next Meeting of the Financial Management Committee is scheduled for Monday,
August 22nd at 12 NOON Eastern Time.
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