Task Force Leadership Conference Call Minutes
From January 22, 2004:
Participants:
| Tom Parker (TF Chair), BART |
Tom Peacock, APTA |
| Henry Rosen (Fare Media Chair), PATH |
Dave Phelps, APTA |
| Greg Garback (Spec. Ind. Liaison), WMATA |
Leisa Moniz, Volpe |
| Chung Chung Tam (Fin Mgmt Chair), CTA |
Tim Weisenberger, Volpe |
| Carol Wise (Operations Chair), COTA |
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Goals and Objectives:
Tom Parker was delayed in getting on the call. Tim Weisenberger stated that
the agenda called for Committee reports, to get an update on the IP Policy,
and to discuss a presentation to the Smart Card Project Managers group, a
US Government cross-agency group developing smart card identification standards.
Tim asked for a discussion of an issue from the Fare Media Committee first
while before Tom joined.
IP Issue in Fare media Committee
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Fare Media Committee has an issue regarding the Magnetic Fare Media
deliverable. Comments were made regarding proprietary information in
the original source document offered by a vendor.
The IP Policy would cover this instance (and others like I that
may crop up) even though it pre-dates the policy. A letter of Assurance
and other policy procedures still apply.
Tim W. is engaging appropriate WG members to determine the IP implications
and will report back to the group.
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Tim brought up that an issue has developed in the Fare Media Committee's
Magnetics Work Group. Lisa Bucci of S&B raised the issue in regards
to a draft deliverable being reviewed in the Mag WG. Lisa had two points:
- She was unsure what type of document the deliverable was and pointed
out that the boilerplate language developed by APTA was not on the
document.
- That she believes there may be proprietary content in the document
and that the source document used was submitted by Cubic.
Henry concurred that these were the issues. Tim stated that the boilerplate
language had been shared with the WG leader for inclusion in the doc.
Dave Phelps added that the document states it is a "Product Guideline
for Magnetic Strip Instruments " and that the WG must decide the
doc type before it forwards the document to the Committee. Tim asked
for help with respect to the IP issue since the program has not implemented
the IP policy. Tim did state that he was engaging the former WG leader,
Bob Murray, to get his insights. Tim will try to determine the IP implications
and report back to the group. Dave stated that this will be an ongoing
issue with any document that contains proprietary information and we
must simply implement the policy with these documents (obtain Letters
of Assurance, etc.) moving forward.
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TCIP Meeting Update- Chung Chung Tam
| The TCIP meeting was held Jan 21 in Annapolis, MD. Tam
proposed that the fare collection portion of TCIP be brought into UTFS
and the Financial Management Committee's scope be expanded. This plan
gave members at the meeting some concern. |
Tam stated that a TCIP meeting was held Jan 21 in Annapolis, MD. Tam
and Henry R. are the co-chairs of the TCIP Fare Collection Technical
Working Group (TWG). Tam proposed that the fare collection portion of
TCIP be brought into UTFS and the Financial Management Committee's scope
be reassessed. Tam stated the reason for this scope change is that TCIP
addresses more data than UTFS such as Maintenance and Status/Alarm data.
Tom Parker asked how the members present received this suggestion. Dave
Phelps stated that it gave them some concern. The TCIP contractors suggested
progressing the work currently done and filling in the gaps through
tight coordination with UTFS members.
Tom Parker suggested a joint meeting between himself, Tam, Henry, and
Dave to strategize coordination with APTA's contractors. Dave stated
that they have an APTA contract and they can't lengthen the timeframe
of that contract. Dave identified Dianne O'Neill of ARINC and John Fayos
of Critical Link as the major interfaces with the TCIP program.
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Committee Reports
Fare Media Committee- Henry Rosen
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The Fare Media Committee next meets on Feb 9 and the "Trends"
document will potentially go out for electronic ballot.
The "Farecard Procurement Procedures" document has been
posted to the web site for committee review ending Feb 9.
The Magnetics WG is reviewing the magnetics deliverable.
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Henry stated that the committees work groups are working
to finalize their documents. At the last committee meeting, Polly O'Kunieff
gave a presentation on the TCIP effort. The Magnetic WG is reviewing its
deliverable and is meeting Feb 4 to discuss it. The Procedural WG document
is in Committee review that ends Feb 9. Finally, the Research WG document
is in final review and will be discussed and potentially called to vote
at the next Fare Media Committee meeting on Feb 9. |
Operations Committee: Carol Wise
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The Steering Committee has developed 9 work tasks. Two tasks will
be completed by the Steering Committee and three will be completed by
a contractor. The Committee is finalizing a statement of work for a
consulting project.
The next call is on Jan 27. Only three people called into the Jan
9 call.
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Carol stated that only 3 people attended the
committee call on Jan 9. The steering committee is finalizing the statement
of work for consulting support. A committee call is scheduled for Jan
26 where they hope to finalize the SOW. The work has been divided into
9 tasks, 2 of which will be performed by the steering committee and 3
performed by a contractor. |
Financial Management Committee- Chung Chung Tam
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Tam stated that the work package teams are meeting on Feb 10-12
in Chicago. The schedule is:
WP3- Feb 10
WP1- Feb 11
WP4- Feb 12
The WP4 research study was awarded to Booz Allen. Tom Peacock is
investigating whether they have a notice to proceed. APTA will send
a notice to the entire task force of the contract award.
Glossary definitions must be coordinated across all working groups.
Tim W. will update and distribute the glossary of terms.
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Tam reported that the Work package teams are meeting in Chicago on
Feb 10-12. WP3 meets on the 10th, WP1 meets on the 11th and WP4 meets
on the 12th. Additionally, there will be a joint meeting of all WP's
in the afternoon of Feb 11 to discuss to ensure ongoing coordination.
The WP4 meeting will include a presentation by Booz Allen. Tam is finalizing
logistics with the WP leaders. Tam asked Tom and Dave from APTA if the
contract was final and if a notice to proceed was needed or could Booz
Allen begin work. Tom would have to check within APTA, but he believed
they could begin work.
Tim suggested that APTA send an official notice of the contract award
since there are rumors circulating among the UTFS membership, many of
whom bid on the work. Tom and Dave agreed to do this.
Tam stated that a concern was raised in his committee that a common
glossary must be agreed to by all working groups and work packages.
Tim W. has consolidated a glossary and distributed it, but it was a
compilation of terms from various groups and some terms are defined
in different ways. Tam stated that he must work through the coordination
within his committee. Tim will update and distribute the glossary based
on definitions voted on in WP1.
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IP Policy, Training and Implementation Schedule
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IP Training
- IP training Webinar was held on Jan 16. Approximately 30 people
attended.
- Dave will issue a Q&A from the session to the task force.
- A second training session will be in March.
- Dave and Kristin O'Grady are available to answer specific questions.
IP Policy Update
- Still only 8 votes received.
- A re-circulation ballot may be necessary due to substantive changes
resulting from comments received.
- A major IP Policy comment is that the Policy state that royalty-free
licenses are only for Transit Agencies in transit applications. There
is a potential for a business member to interpret this as stating
that they may not be able to get a royalty-free license, but this
is only the case if a business member requests a license for non-transit
applications.
- The impact of the change is to potentially postpone the formal
adoption of the Policy for 60-90 days.
- This does not affect the interim implementation schedule agreed
to on the Jan 8 leadership call.
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Dave Phelps reported that the IP training Webinar was held on Jan 16.
Approximately 30 sites were on line. Greg Garback attended the dry run
and provided valuable comments to improve the training. The presentation
included a PowerPoint presentation as well as various reference documents
(Letter of Assurance, etc.) and templates. The session spurred good
comments and questions and Dave will issue a Q&A to the task force.
Dave anticipated another training session when enough people have asked
for one. He anticipates that the second session will be in March. Dave
and APTA's legal council Kristin O'Grady are available to answer specific
questions.
Dave gave a general status update on the IP Policy. He suggested that
the report to the Rail CEO Steering Committee on Jan 27 include the
following:
· The IP Policy is still in ballot stage and that there are
still not enough votes in to establish a quorum. Approximately 25 votes
are needed and only 8 have been received
- Resolution of some of the comments will require substantive changes
and may therefore require a re-circulation ballot.
- A re-circulation ballot would render the current, non-quorum for
the IP ballot a non-issue.
The major comment received is a request that the Policy state that
royalty-free licenses are only for Transit Agencies in transit applications.
There is a potential for a business member to interpret this as stating
that they may not be able to get a royalty-free license. Dave's assertion
is that this is only true in the case that a business member would ask
for a license for a non-transit application.
The impact of the changes is to potentially postpone the formal adoption
of the Policy for 60-90 days.
Tim W. asked how this turn of events affects the implementation schedule
agreed to on the Jan 8 call. Dave stated that it would not (see last
minutes for implementation schedule). Tim also asked the status of the
personal calls and the assignment of calls to the leadership members.
Dave answered that they have not begun yet.
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Interagency Advisory Board
Greg Garback stated that the Federal Government's Smart Card Project Managers
group will be meeting on Mar 9th from 9:30AM- Noon in Washington. Greg had
arranged with the group's leader, Bill Holcombe to get 10-15 minutes to present.
Greg stated that this is a good forum to present the UTFS program to government
agencies. Tim stated that Tom Parker or Agapito were supposed to coordinate
the presentation. Tom stated that he believed Agapito was in LA at this point
and no longer worked for ACS. Dave Phelps stated that if Agapito is not part
of an APTA member he cannot speak for APTA. Tom stated he would coordinate
with Tim to find a suitable presenter.
Action Items Carried Over From 12/11 Meeting
- Tom Parker/Agapito Diaz- Engage NYCT to host UTFS working meetings
on Mar 25/26. (Carried over from 12/11 meeting)
Action Items Carried Over From 1/8 Meeting
- APTA- Finalize "System Business Issues" document.
- APTA- Send list of task force ballots outstanding and assignments
to TF leaders to call those agencies.
Action Items
- Tim W.- Update UTFS glossary and distribute.
- Tim W.- Investigate IP issues within the Magnetic Fare Media deliverable
and report back to the leadership.
- APTA- Finalize contract with Booz Allen.
- APTA- Inform Task Force members of the contract award to Booz Allen.
- APTA- Electronically distribute IP Policy letter to all task force
members on Feb 2.
- APTA- Edit IP policy and issue for re-circulation ballot.
- Tom Parker/Tim W. - Coordinate a presentation at the Smart Card
Project Manager's meeting on March 9.
Next Meeting
The next leadership meeting will be held Thursday, Feb 5 at 12:00 Noon
Eastern Time
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