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APTA > About APTA > APTA Committees > Universal Transit Farecard Standards (UTFS) Task Force  

Universal Transit Farecard Standards (UTFS)Task Force

Task Force Leadership Conference Call Minutes

From October 7, 2004:

(Download in Adobe PDF format)

Participants:

Chung Chung Tam, Chicago Transit Authority (Chair) Alexander Pi, Scheidt & Bachmann USA
Rick Barrett, Quattran Associates (Vice Chair) Gary Yamamura, Three Point Consulting Dave Phelps, APTA
Jennifer Cheng, Metro. Transportation Commission Leisa Moniz, USDOT/Volpe Center
David Faust, Chicago Transit Authority  
Barnie Louie, BART  
Gerry Lington, Parsons  
Kevin Krest, G&D  
Bob Murray  
Craig Maxey, WMATA  
Olatunji Nowlin, Chicago Transit Authority  
Darshana Patel, Chicago Transit Authority

Roll call, Volpe Center

Meeting Goals and Objectives

Chung Chung Tam, Committee Chair outlined the goals and objectives for the meeting.

Meeting Goals & Objectives, Tam

 

 

 

    • APTA Annual Meeting/Rail CEO Meeting and RMC Report-outs
    • CEN Meeting Report-out
    • Work group leaders report-out

APTA Annual Meeting/Rail CEO Meeting Report-out, Tam:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Revenue Management Committee Activities report-out, Tam:

 

 

 

 

CEN Meeting Report-out, Tam:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Work Group Leaders Report-out:

Business Process Work Group Report-out, Rick Barrett:

 

Systems Work Group Report-out:

WP#1:

 

 

 

 

 

 

WP#3:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WP#4:

Tom Parker, UTFS Program Chair, provided an update on the program at the recent Rail CEO Committee meeting held in conjunction with the APTA Annual Meeting on Sunday, October 10th in Atlanta, GA.

The meeting was well attended and all three (3) balloting vendors for the UTFS program were also present (Cubic, ERG and S&B).

Much of the discussion focused on the scope issue and program goal and objectives. The scope discussion evolved around whether the program outputs would provide device- level interoperability or system-level interoperability. After some discussion, those at the session concluded that device-level interoperability is the level of interoperability required for the program.

Several action items came out of the discussion and are as follows:

Supplier-only Meeting @ APTA, date TBD:

APTA will host a Suppliers-only meeting. Date TBD, however it was stated that the meeting should occur 10 days prior to the November17-18th meeting already scheduled in NY. This meeting will be held at APTA headquarters in Washington, D.C.

Nov. 17th Meetings @ PANYNJ offices, New York, NY:

  • APTA UTFS Transit agency-only meeting:
  • Tom Parker is putting together a list of agency invitees, along with the appropriate APTA and Volpe program staff support.
  • APTA UTFS Supplier-only meeting:
  • Based upon the supplier-only meeting held at APTA offices this meeting may/may not be needed. The supplier group will determine if the meeting on the 17th is needed.

Nov. 18th Meeting @ PANYNJ offices, New York, NY

APTA UTFS Transit/Supplier Meeting:

Based on the previous day discussions the goals and objectives of this session will be to bring each of the groups together and reach a final consensus on UTFS program mission and scope.

Several call participants expressed a concern about schedule and availability for the APTA coordinated suppliers-only meeting as we are already in mid-October and many participants are scheduling activities for that timeframe.

APTA, Martin P. Schroeder P.E. and Dave Phelps have the action to draft the agenda and letter of invitation. Tim Weisenberger, Volpe, has provided a list of all suppliers who have participated in the UTFS program to APTA.

Over 40 people attended the Revenue Management Committee meeting held on Sunday, October 10th. Major activities of the RMC will include: rewriting the bylaws, planning the 2005 Fare Collection Workshop, Oakland, CA, developing the electronic newsletter (published in November 2004), and Training and Outreach.

Anyone interested in participating in RMC activities should contact Tam.

At the meeting the subcommittee Chairs and Vice Chairs provided updates on their activities.

ISO TC204 Report-out from Beijing:

4 representatives from US were present

10 countries represented (France, UK, Norway, Germany, South Africa, Australia, China, Korea and Japan)

Cubic sent a rep.

IFMS Workshop:

Tam was unable to attend the IFMS workshop due to travel delays, however Al Chan presented the briefing on UTFS/CEN, including the high-level gap analysis that was done between UTFS/CEN. Major issues included: definitions/glossary and autoload. UTFS reps. Said that if UTFS participates in CEN, it can’t impede the WP#4 development.

ISO TC204 Meeting:

The next day’s meeting focused on presenting the IFMS as an official work item. Tam indicated that Japan objected to approving IFMS as a work item; the issue was scope and Japan felt the scope proposed wasn’t clear. The scope was rewritten and submitted on a Form 4 and then approved.

In terms of the proposed Part 2, Messaging and Data Elements. CEN will generate a Form 4; develop scope and present at a future meeting.

 

Rick Barrett stated that the final version of the Business Issues document was circulated for its final review. Any comments should be submitted to Rick prior to COB, October 29th.

 

 

Work Package #1: Barney Louie, BART indicated that the WP#1 report has been circulated for the first round of review and comments. BART, ERG, Cubic and Bob Murray have provided comments to date. Other organizations including G&D and S&B will have comments as well.

Some discussion ensued regarding the necessity for a Test Plan document. Several call participants indicated that this will be a topic of discussion for a call scheduled for Friday at 12noon. Additionally, some high level concern was expressed regarding the visual presentation of the document and associated language in the document. These issues will also be addressed on the call on Friday, October 22nd at 12noon, immediately following the WP#1 call.

Gary Yamamura provided an update as follows:

Sections 1-7 are drafted

Section 8 draft was submitted yesterday to Gary

Section 9 draft was submitted approximately two weeks ago

Section 10 draft is complete, except for two subsections.

Consolidated and completed draft to WP#3 team members with a 30-day review cycle should be completed by mid-December. The caveat to this schedule will be if the remaining subsections for Section 10 are submitted on time.

The document should go to full Committee review in January.

 

Dave Andrews has received comments on the RIS Part 4 as presented in Cambridge in September. Dave is in the process of consolidating those comments and will redistribute sometime later this week.

BAH Contract Extension

The extension to the BAH contract allowing them to include the RIS Part 4 in their scope has been with APTA. APTA hopes to have Tony Kouneski sign this week and get to BAH.

ITSO background material has been prepared and distributed to the group for future discussion.

Next call is scheduled for Oct. 20th at 11:30 AM Eastern.

 

The next conference call of the Financial Management Committee will be on Monday, November 22nd at 12 NOON EASTERN TIME.

Summary

Leisa provided the recap:

  • APTA has action item to schedule a Supplier-only meeting at APTA headquarters.
  • Tom Parker is coordinating the invitees and agenda for the Transit-only meeting in New York, NY on November 17th.
  • Comments on the Business Process Issues Document are due to Rick Barrett by COB, October 29th.
  • Anyone interesting in participating in RMC activities should contact Tam.
  • APTA has an action item to approve BAH contract extension and get to BAH.

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