UTFS Fare Media Committee

Goals and Objectives:

• TCIP Coordination Update
• Review of the "Trends in Electronic Fare Media" document
• Work Group reports

Tim reported that a meeting was held Jan 21 in Annapolis, MD to work on coordination issue. Ongoing coordination is required to resolve open issues.

• Disconnect of TCIP schedule and UTFS schedule
• Potentially absorbing TCIP fare collection work into UTFS Financial management Committee.
• There was some difference of opinion on this issue.

No substantive comments are pending made. Robert Reavis had stated that 2000-odd grammar, syntax and typographic edits by to be resolved. Walt and Robert met to incorporate all edits, however all the edits were still incomplete, but it was simply a matter of time.

Given that all remaining edits are non-substantive, that APTA will be the final editor, and that Robert is comfortable with the editing process, the committee agreed to the following next steps:

• Tim Weisenberger will post the edited document to the web site as soon as received.
• At that point, an electronic ballot would be issued to the Committee.
• The eligible voters are: BART, PATH, LIRR, WMATA, ERG, S&B, Cubic Transportation Systems, LTK Engineering, and Lobron Consulting.
• The ballot would be open for 14 days after issue

Tim pointed out that Dave Phelps of APTA stated that APTA’s position is that they are responsible for final editing of deliverables and that committees should not overly burden themselves with these edits. Given this, Robert’s comfort level, and the lack of substantive changes, it was proposed that the group agree to an electronic ballot at such time as Tim posted the edited, final draft document on the web site. Tim would distribute the electronic ballot to the committee. The eligible voters are: BART, PATH, LIRR, WMATA, ERG, S&B, Cubic Transportation Systems, LTK Engineering, and Lobron Consulting. The ballot would be open for 14 days after issue. The committee agreed.

Magnetic Fare Media: Rich Lobron

Magnetic Fare Media document was sent to the Work Group for final review. Comments are due COB Feb 16.

IP issues were discussed at the Feb 4 WG meeting. Pertinent to the issue are the following:

• The APTA IP Policy is not in place
• No specific cites containing IP were made; Cubic is asking for specific cites to address
• Cubic has not asserted any IP claims to date
• As of Jan 24, the document is labeled as APTA property

The next meeting will be the week of Feb 23.

Bob Murray stated that BART sent some specific IP protection language. Rich replied that this is just the verbiage that appears on the footer of every page, and so is not specific. Also, this is no longer applicable because as of Jan 24, the document is an APTA document, with assertions of its ownership.

The Magnetic Fare Media document was sent for final review with comments due by COB Feb 16. The next meeting will be the week of Feb 23.

Procedural: Tim Weisenberger

The Farecard Procurement Procedures document is posted on the web site at http://www.apta.com/
about/committees/utfs/
procedural_working_group_documents.cfm

The deadline for comments is 5PM Eastern time Feb 11.

No comments have been received and no one on the call responded that they plan to provide comments.

Tim will post the final document ASAP including any comments received.

A meeting was tentatively scheduled for Wed, Feb 18 at Noon Eastern time to have a final discussion on the document.

Given this lack of comments, it was agreed to hold a meeting Wed, Feb 18 at Noon Eastern time to hold a final discussion of the document. If applicable it will be moved to Committee ballot. Eligible voters will be determined at that time and Tim will distribute an electronic ballot to the committee via email.

Lisa Bucci objected to this course of action. She felt that since the comment period is not complete, and we don’t know what version of the document will be discussed, a meeting scheduled so soon is not necessary. Since only the people on the call know of the meeting, it is too short notice to inform the committee. Several members noted that since there are no comments to date there will be no comments or limited comments. Several saw no harm in scheduling a meeting and informing the committee via email of status changes. Tim agreed to immediately send an email informing the Committee of the meeting date. Additionally, the meeting could be canceled if comments could not be incorporated quickly.