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APTA > About APTA > APTA Committees > Universal Transit Farecard Standards (UTFS) Task Force > Financial Management  

UTFS Financial Management Committee Meeting Minutes

TeleMeeting Minutes: December 20, 2004

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TeleMeeting Minutes: December 20, 2004

Participants:

Chung Chung Tam, Chicago Transit Authority (Chair)

Alexander Pi, Scheidt & Bachmann USA

Rick Barrett, Quattran Associates (Vice Chair)

Gary Yamamura, Three Point Consulting

Walt Bonneau, Cubic Transportation Systems

Leisa Moniz, US DOT/Volpe Center

Lisa Bucci, Scheidt & Bachmann USA

 

Andrew Chan, GFI

 

Greg Garback, WMATA

 

Kevin Krest, G&D

 

Barney Louie, BART

 

Polly Okunieff, Systems & Solutions, Inc.

 

Darshana Patel, Chicago Transit Authority

 

Roll call, Volpe Center

Meeting Goals and Objectives

Chung Chung Tam, Committee Chair outlined the goals and objectives for the meeting.

    • Review Process - UTFS New York Meetings Materials
    • Work group leaders report-out
    • TCIP 2.6 Update
    • CEN Update
    • Revenue Management Committee Update

Review Process UTFS New York Meetings Materials, Tam:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Work Group Leaders Report-out:
Business Process Work Group, Rick Barrett:

 

 

Systems Work Group
Work Package #1, Walt Bonneau

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Work Package #3, Gary Yamamura

 

Work Package #4, Rick Barrett

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

TCIP 2.6 Update, Polly Okunieff:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CEN Update, Tam:

 

 

 

 

Revenue Management Committee Update, Tam:

 

Tam reported that on December 8th, Martin P. Schroeder P.E., APTA distributed (via email) to the NY Meeting attendees and UTFS Task Force Leadership a meeting summary and slides for review and comment. The following process was defined by APTA and is as follows:

  • Review of meeting summary and UTFS leadership – due December 21st
  • Consolidation of comments and changes, if warranted – due December 30th
  • Wide distribution to all under signature of Tom Parker – due December 30th with a 30-day review, due January 27th
  • Presentation to CEOs at GM Seminar – January 29th.

Tam urged all transit agencies to review and respond with comments, as this is their opportunity to help shape the program.

Tam indicated that Cubic and S&B have provided comments to APTA.

Gary Yamamura inquired as to whether further information, guidance would be provided to the broader audience, who did not attend the meetings in New York or others who did attend but need further discussion/clarification. Tam indicated he would follow up with APTA to see if a forum would be provided by APTA prior to the expiration of the 30-day review period that could offer additional information on the proposals, including the pros and cons.

 

Rick will check with Martin P. Schroeder P.E., APTA to make sure the final, not draft version of the Business Issues document has been posted on the UTFS web site.

 

Walt indicated that the group has been involved in significant discussions on various process issues. Comment resolution is still underway with the document. Currently, the group is discussing and debating the Cubic comments. Once the discussion is completed, discussion will begin on the comments received from ERG, Thales and BART. Walt indicated that perhaps it will take 2-months to complete this work. The group is also assessing whether to hold a face-to-face meeting, possibly in February as a way to expedite and resolve the comments and finalize the document.

Tam encouraged those on the call to support Walt in achieving this goal and put the process issues discussion behind them.

Gary indicated that the group has made good progress and he hopes that the group’s document will be forwarded to the full committee for review by the end of December. Tam stated that he had read the document and thought it was very useful.

David McIlwraith and Ed Barnette were not present on the call. Rick provided a quick update: Ed Barnette, WMATA was elected Vice Chair. There is a ballot out to WP#4 to vote on whether or not to use the RIS, Part 4 as the basis for proceeding with the Central System interface specification development for Work Package #4.

  • The next call is Wednesday, January 5th at 11:30 AM Eastern Time. Ed will chair the call and distribute the agenda.
  • Final version of the BAH study is due December 15th. This version is to include TransLink and RIS Part 4 information.

Leisa will send Rick Barrett copy of WP4 ballot on RIS, Part 4

Polly provided a quick update on TCIP activities related to the 2.6 Fare Collection

Part 1, Concept of Operations

Part 2, Data elements, frames, messages and dialogs

Comment form for version 2.6

Due dates for TCIP 2.6 review:

Part 1, narrative – due January 15

Other parts (Part 2, data elements, frames, messages, dialogs) - due Feb 18

To access website:

Logon to the ARINC TCIP web site:

http://www.arincxchange.com/exchange/login.cfm

Further information will be sent out under a separate email from Leisa Moniz/USDOT, Volpe Center.

Tam reported that there was an ISO meeting on December 2nd. With help from Brian Monk and Dave Andrews, the US was able to present a use case action list.

Next steps – reconcile UTFS and IFMS definitions

Additionally, Germany and France have submitted documents for consideration.

 

Tam reported on the following RMC activities:

Policy subcommittee: there is a conference call today on the RMC By-laws revision. Anyone interested in participating should contact Kevin Krest and Lisa Bucci.

Outreach and Training Subcommittee has been busy planning the Fare Collection Workshop, scheduled in March in Oakland, CA. Also this month, the first electronic RMC Newsletter was distributed to all RMC members. If you have not received a copy, please let Tam know. Plans are also under way for a webinar on debit and credit issues. Watch for the announcement.

Technologies Subcommittee is developing a white paper on limited use smart cards. Anyone interested in participating should contact Gary Yamamura or Darshana Patel. The next call is this Thursday, January 6th at 12 NOON eastern time.

Standards Oversight Subcommittee - Tam reported that he and Al Chan will provide a briefing at Workshop in Orlando, FL.

Summary

Leisa provided the recap:

  • Tam will contact APTA re: Information/Discussion Forum for NY Meetings Materials.
  • Rick to follow-up with APTA regarding Business Issues document posting on web.
  • Leisa will distribute TCIP 2.6 materials under separate email to group.
  • Watch for announcements on Webinar and other RMC activities.
  • Leisa will send Rick Barrett email ballot on RIS Part 4, WP4 action
  • Next committee call is scheduled for Monday, January 24th at 12 NOON EASTERN TIME.

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